May 16, 2024

Part One:

We speak with David Atkins, reporter for Washington Monthly and for The American Prospect, about the lies underpinning the centrist pushback against Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. We also discuss the divide among Democrats between the centrists and the progressive wing of the party. It appears that centrist Democrats have been mistaken in believing that they should reject strongly progressive positions and instead seek to compromise with Republicans. For at least a decade or two, the Republican party has grown ever more right-wing, and has refused to agree to (almost) anything that would be remotely palatable to Democrats trying to achieve social justice.

Part Two:

We speak with Ben Ehrenreich, reporter for The Nation, about how climate change is advancing a lot more rapidly than we had been led to believe. It could, relatively soon, lead to massive drought, heat, and starvation, which would cause an unprecedented number of people to migrate — at great personal risk and over long distances — in an attempt to save their families’ lives. National borders would be blurred by such population movements — much as multinational corporations have already done in the economic sphere. What kind of havoc would this create? What solutions might exist?