May 15, 2024

Part One: A conversation with Rachel Laser, the new Executive Director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Rachel is the first woman, and the first non-Christian to hold this position.

Part Two: Ryan Grim is the DC bureau chief for The Intercept. He speaks with us about the primary in Texas’ 7th Congressional District, where two men and two women are running and Emily’s List is endorsing the less progressive of the female candidates. The DCCC is endorsing the less progressive of the two male candidates. It’s messy. Ryan helps us wade through the muck.