Part 1: We talk with Bob Hennelly about the climate of fear in the US. The pandemic is still taking victims, with no real end in sight. Climate change is causing natural disasters. We need testing, masking, and social distancing. We need to redefine civil defense as coping with our fears. Part 2: We talk with Peter Greene about education vouchers. These are being used to destroy the wall between government support of religious education and state education. These are also being used to hurt state education.