We talk with Barbara Hofer, Prof. Emerita, MIddlebury College, and Gale M. Sinatra, USC. We discuss how people seem to want to be oblivious to the dangers of the climate crisis, and how they choose to distrust science. People want 100% certainty in all climate disaster warnings, and do not understand that science is evidence based, and there is no 100% certainty.
We talk with Major General Dennis Laich (ret). We discuss the problem of some members of the armed forces refusing vaccinations, a clear act of insubordination. Officers who do not act are guilty of dereliction of duty. Several remedies are discussed.