April 25, 2024

Part One:
We chat with Mel Goodman, a national security and intelligence expert who has taught at the National War College and at Johns Hopkins, about the Trump administration’s chaotic and dangerous policies (foreign and domestic).

Part Two:
We chat with Sabrina Butler-Smith, a former inmate who was exonerated after 6 years on death row. She tells her harrowing story and discusses why the death penalty should be abolished.